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	<title>Comments on: Who Do you Complain to About the Better Business Bureau?</title>
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		<title>By: Denny Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-6327</link>
		<dc:creator>Denny Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently got the run around from the BBB. We have a false complaint on our BBB profile. We were told by their managers to fax the supporting documents to a Mary Lou Diaz. This happened after 5 months of trying to get this resolved. First they told me to e-mail a Mr Robinson. We did that and just got a sales calls 3 days later. After faxing all the documents, they refused to remove the false complaint. This is kinda weird since they removed complaints for us before but we had to pay to become an accredited member first. The BBB is a scam that only backs up companies that pay to be part of their programs. They even support companies that advertise with them that have poor ratings with the BBB. The real bad thing about this is that people actually look at their site and get false information. Shame on the BBB. They are a scam.

Denny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently got the run around from the BBB. We have a false complaint on our BBB profile. We were told by their managers to fax the supporting documents to a Mary Lou Diaz. This happened after 5 months of trying to get this resolved. First they told me to e-mail a Mr Robinson. We did that and just got a sales calls 3 days later. After faxing all the documents, they refused to remove the false complaint. This is kinda weird since they removed complaints for us before but we had to pay to become an accredited member first. The BBB is a scam that only backs up companies that pay to be part of their programs. They even support companies that advertise with them that have poor ratings with the BBB. The real bad thing about this is that people actually look at their site and get false information. Shame on the BBB. They are a scam.</p>
<p>Denny</p>
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		<title>By: Zooticia Zoot</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-5888</link>
		<dc:creator>Zooticia Zoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this edifying post.  After two years of membership in the Chicago BBB, we finally realized that the whole thing is a shakedown, based on experiences remarkably similar to others described both here and in a 20/20 story I found on YouTube.  As for &quot;concerned consumer,&quot; I&#039;d bet dollars to donuts that she works for the BBB.  How else would somebody NOT to trying to verify their suspicions about the BBB find your blog post eight months later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this edifying post.  After two years of membership in the Chicago BBB, we finally realized that the whole thing is a shakedown, based on experiences remarkably similar to others described both here and in a 20/20 story I found on YouTube.  As for &#8220;concerned consumer,&#8221; I&#8217;d bet dollars to donuts that she works for the BBB.  How else would somebody NOT to trying to verify their suspicions about the BBB find your blog post eight months later?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Greenspan</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-5594</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Greenspan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed the point of this post. My company had an A+ rating and still does. The BBB is coercing us to buy their service to retain it. They use all sorts of clever sales techniques to do so. They are not a true regulatory authority in my opinion, rather a for profit business using their brand to generate revenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed the point of this post. My company had an A+ rating and still does. The BBB is coercing us to buy their service to retain it. They use all sorts of clever sales techniques to do so. They are not a true regulatory authority in my opinion, rather a for profit business using their brand to generate revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: concerned consumer</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-5589</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned consumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Oct 2011 15:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BBB is a great company that I have used many times to decide who I should use.  If you are recieving threats or a bad rating it is because you provided a service that was unsatisfactory.  And im sure the people that reported unsatifactory results are also looking in to a lawsuit as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBB is a great company that I have used many times to decide who I should use.  If you are recieving threats or a bad rating it is because you provided a service that was unsatisfactory.  And im sure the people that reported unsatifactory results are also looking in to a lawsuit as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-5153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a goodie. I inquired about becoming Accredited a week ago while I was updating company info. Soon got a call with the sales pitch toward both Accreditation &amp; TrustLink, plus a ton of empty compliments on my personality (which is silly because I can be a total @$$hole). I held off to review more.  
  I get a call 20 minutes ago from another nearby BBB office in Culver City from a woman who claimed we owed them back payments for being Accredited since 2005 and fees for updating the info! I pulled up our site profile and advised her to do the same, showing that we&#039;re not currently accredited and our info had already been updated.  I asked what I was paying for again and she responded with how great Accreditation can be for our business.  Sorry BBB, what was once an interested customer is now a bitter man plotting against you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a goodie. I inquired about becoming Accredited a week ago while I was updating company info. Soon got a call with the sales pitch toward both Accreditation &amp; TrustLink, plus a ton of empty compliments on my personality (which is silly because I can be a total @$$hole). I held off to review more.<br />
  I get a call 20 minutes ago from another nearby BBB office in Culver City from a woman who claimed we owed them back payments for being Accredited since 2005 and fees for updating the info! I pulled up our site profile and advised her to do the same, showing that we&#8217;re not currently accredited and our info had already been updated.  I asked what I was paying for again and she responded with how great Accreditation can be for our business.  Sorry BBB, what was once an interested customer is now a bitter man plotting against you.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Genot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie Genot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to know who the BBB is accountable to?  They have single handidly tried to ruin our company.  We have tried to resolve whatever problem they have with us, but it seems they can do whatever they want.  We have recieved threats of an F rating amoung other things.  These are the rudest people I have ever dealt with and I regret ever signing up with them. (Toledo, Oh BBB)  I have contacted thier so called President in hopes to resolve this deep rooted sickness they have against us with no response. I have invited him and his croonies to our place of business, with no response.  They need to be accountable to someone!!!  They should not be allowed to go around and threaten businesses anytime they wish.  Besides a lawsuit which I am considering....what else can I do to hold them responsible for thier actions?  BTW---they are the biggest scam artists I have ever seen. I will never be apart of this organization again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to know who the BBB is accountable to?  They have single handidly tried to ruin our company.  We have tried to resolve whatever problem they have with us, but it seems they can do whatever they want.  We have recieved threats of an F rating amoung other things.  These are the rudest people I have ever dealt with and I regret ever signing up with them. (Toledo, Oh BBB)  I have contacted thier so called President in hopes to resolve this deep rooted sickness they have against us with no response. I have invited him and his croonies to our place of business, with no response.  They need to be accountable to someone!!!  They should not be allowed to go around and threaten businesses anytime they wish.  Besides a lawsuit which I am considering&#8230;.what else can I do to hold them responsible for thier actions?  BTW&#8212;they are the biggest scam artists I have ever seen. I will never be apart of this organization again.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-4563</link>
		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DID YOU KNOW? A member of the board, at the Maryland BBB is the president of an auto warranty company. They have had 26 complaints in the last 15 years, and have sold in excess of 1,800,000 contracts. 

WOW. That&#039;s 1,800,000 cars that have not incurred mechanical failures. KUDOS TO THE AUTO MANUFACTURERS. 

With such statistics, why would anyone need an extended auto warranty contract?

Naturally, we chose to remain nameless, as the BBB has a harsh and vindictive retribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DID YOU KNOW? A member of the board, at the Maryland BBB is the president of an auto warranty company. They have had 26 complaints in the last 15 years, and have sold in excess of 1,800,000 contracts. </p>
<p>WOW. That&#8217;s 1,800,000 cars that have not incurred mechanical failures. KUDOS TO THE AUTO MANUFACTURERS. </p>
<p>With such statistics, why would anyone need an extended auto warranty contract?</p>
<p>Naturally, we chose to remain nameless, as the BBB has a harsh and vindictive retribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Saling</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-4368</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Saling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said what the rest of us have been thinking perfectly Eric...  Good job!  

In a recent conversation one of the reps actually stated that the BBB was paid by Google for their accredited member information.  Decent back link, agreed...  But the BBB actually getting a paycheck from google?

Lately I&#039;ve noticed with some of the less technology savvy industries such as &#039;roofers&#039; they have taken a special few of the accredited members that have agreed to pay an additional 95 a month for a BBB sponsored adwords campaign and put them in a list before all of the other members in the regular member directory.  To the untrained eye it appears they only have 5 accredited members rather than the entire list of 23 that have shelled out hundreds.

Are these guys the BBB or an advertising agency?  If this is an advertisement wouldn&#039;t it be an honorable mention to list this was a paid advertisement at least so that the remaining accredited members had a fair shake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said what the rest of us have been thinking perfectly Eric&#8230;  Good job!  </p>
<p>In a recent conversation one of the reps actually stated that the BBB was paid by Google for their accredited member information.  Decent back link, agreed&#8230;  But the BBB actually getting a paycheck from google?</p>
<p>Lately I&#8217;ve noticed with some of the less technology savvy industries such as &#8216;roofers&#8217; they have taken a special few of the accredited members that have agreed to pay an additional 95 a month for a BBB sponsored adwords campaign and put them in a list before all of the other members in the regular member directory.  To the untrained eye it appears they only have 5 accredited members rather than the entire list of 23 that have shelled out hundreds.</p>
<p>Are these guys the BBB or an advertising agency?  If this is an advertisement wouldn&#8217;t it be an honorable mention to list this was a paid advertisement at least so that the remaining accredited members had a fair shake?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave's Marine Services</title>
		<link>http://www.ericgreenspan.com/me/better-business-bureau-for-who/comment-page-1/#comment-3278</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave's Marine Services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 15:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We received a phone call from the Raleigh BBB asking us if we wanted to resolve a complaint made by a consumer. We were informed that in order to guarantee &quot;resolve&quot; in the matter we would need to write a check to the local BBB for $600.00. Essentially attempting to extort money from our business.

They explained that they had mailed two complaint letters, we received one AFTER they called us, that we had limited time to adhere to their complaint schedule; in other words send them money now. I explained to them that I would review the compliant and contact them back, after reviewing what they initially put online we determined that the customer, WHO WOULD NOT REVEAL THEIR REAL NAME, was a person who had in fact ripped our company off.  

This customer thought he knew what was wrong with his boat and insisted he was right, even though he could not fix it himself; to the point of claiming we were even trying to rip him off. He had an electrical issue that required swapping out most of the system (battery, plugs, cables, starter, wires) to find the problem. He wrote us a check, while not complaining about anything and picked up his jetski then canceled the check. He has never returned any of the seven phone calls made to him by us about the matter. Which we have informed the police about.

After filing a complaint with the BBB and of course not bothering to contact us, as we apparently don&#039;t know what we are doing, according to him; he them canceled his personal check to us and refuses to clear his complaint with the BBB even though he received free service and parts, which he also refuses to return. The Wake County Sheriff&#039;s office has told us that after we file a civil complaint and win a judgment they would then charge him with felony theft. Unfortunately for us as a small business that customer&#039;s $573.00 bill is simply not worth the day in court and one thousand dollar filing fee charged by Wake County. This is one of the many reasons why dealerships and honest service shops will not bother with mobile service, there is no automatic lien placed on the property enforceable in court without a civil suit process. Our company lost more than $170.00&#039;s in parts cost, which the BBB refuses to acknowledge since we refuse to pay them their extortion fee. I have gone as far as threatening to contact the local police and record their phone calls next time they decide to allow someone with no evidence to libel us online and then extort money from our business. Consequently, the Raleigh BBB gave our company an F rating and wrote three of their own bad reviews about us, because we would not pay them to remove the original complaint.

We have had/handled 15 serious customer complaints in seven years of doing business out of more than three thousand service jobs performed(and we can back that up with documentation in court). Out of the total available market in Wake County we are currently servicing 5% annually and have a referral rate of 20% meaning that 1 in five customers has been referred by an existing customer. Other than a phone book listing Dave&#039;s Marine Services spends no money on advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We received a phone call from the Raleigh BBB asking us if we wanted to resolve a complaint made by a consumer. We were informed that in order to guarantee &#8220;resolve&#8221; in the matter we would need to write a check to the local BBB for $600.00. Essentially attempting to extort money from our business.</p>
<p>They explained that they had mailed two complaint letters, we received one AFTER they called us, that we had limited time to adhere to their complaint schedule; in other words send them money now. I explained to them that I would review the compliant and contact them back, after reviewing what they initially put online we determined that the customer, WHO WOULD NOT REVEAL THEIR REAL NAME, was a person who had in fact ripped our company off.  </p>
<p>This customer thought he knew what was wrong with his boat and insisted he was right, even though he could not fix it himself; to the point of claiming we were even trying to rip him off. He had an electrical issue that required swapping out most of the system (battery, plugs, cables, starter, wires) to find the problem. He wrote us a check, while not complaining about anything and picked up his jetski then canceled the check. He has never returned any of the seven phone calls made to him by us about the matter. Which we have informed the police about.</p>
<p>After filing a complaint with the BBB and of course not bothering to contact us, as we apparently don&#8217;t know what we are doing, according to him; he them canceled his personal check to us and refuses to clear his complaint with the BBB even though he received free service and parts, which he also refuses to return. The Wake County Sheriff&#8217;s office has told us that after we file a civil complaint and win a judgment they would then charge him with felony theft. Unfortunately for us as a small business that customer&#8217;s $573.00 bill is simply not worth the day in court and one thousand dollar filing fee charged by Wake County. This is one of the many reasons why dealerships and honest service shops will not bother with mobile service, there is no automatic lien placed on the property enforceable in court without a civil suit process. Our company lost more than $170.00&#8242;s in parts cost, which the BBB refuses to acknowledge since we refuse to pay them their extortion fee. I have gone as far as threatening to contact the local police and record their phone calls next time they decide to allow someone with no evidence to libel us online and then extort money from our business. Consequently, the Raleigh BBB gave our company an F rating and wrote three of their own bad reviews about us, because we would not pay them to remove the original complaint.</p>
<p>We have had/handled 15 serious customer complaints in seven years of doing business out of more than three thousand service jobs performed(and we can back that up with documentation in court). Out of the total available market in Wake County we are currently servicing 5% annually and have a referral rate of 20% meaning that 1 in five customers has been referred by an existing customer. Other than a phone book listing Dave&#8217;s Marine Services spends no money on advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: bbbmafia</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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